A lot of people have asked what I think of the series, and I’ve voiced bits and pieces of my opinion in some places, but I think that’s led to some misconceptions.
First off, in full disclosure, I’m not a huge fan of the series.
That said:
I don’t hate the Twilight books.
Nor do I think people who love them are idiots (a sentiment I’ve heard from many Twilight haters). A lot of good friends of mine enjoy the books, including some who I respect as both writers and readers. Because of their recommendation, I fully expected to adore the series.
But I didn’t. I don’t think that makes me an idiot either. On one hand, I read the first book quicker than I read most. It was a fast read in that regard. But I didn’t love it, even though I wanted to.
There are lots of reasons for that. For starters, Edward isn’t my type of hero.
(Sorry; don’t throw eggs, please!)
I have a suspicion about why Edward is actually a turn-off for me. When I was in high school, my mother volunteered at a battered women’s shelter. More than once, she came home, sat us girls down, and explained in no uncertain terms what the red flags of an abuser were—and declared that we were never to date a guy like that.
Many of those common red flags aren’t violent, abusive, or angry behaviors. In fact, many feel romantic, charming, and lovey-dovey at the time, but are actually possessive, irrationally jealous, and controlling and spell trouble down the road.
Now obviously, Edward isn’t an abuser. Not even close. But he has nearly all the red flags of one. He controls Bella’s life, cuts her off from her friends and family, invades her space to the point that she really has no choice in the matter, and encourages her to go behind her father’s back. Among other things.
I immediately turned off. Ick. That’s not my type of guy. Get the heck away from me. I couldn’t understand Bella’s attraction. (Bella’s annoying character—and why would he be attracted to her beyond the tantalizing smell of her blood—is another issue altogether.)
Some of my concerns translate into real life. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if a young woman sees that kind of behavior from a guy and then thinks he’s an Edward (which doesn’t exist!), when in reality, he’s a potential abuser. Or she might think, If he really loves me, he’ll never cross that line—because Edward never did. But how many hormonal young men have that kind of control, especially when the girl is pushing herself onto him, begging him to cross that line (but secretly thinking he won't if he loves her)?
I have a sixth-grade daughter. Some of her friends have read Twilight. I won’t let her yet; she’s too young. (Thankfully, she doesn't really want to.) If she asks to read it in a few years, we’ll talk about it then. The thing is, I’m not in favor of giving her something that’s been so obviously effective in evoking hormonal responses. It’s a series that’s better suited to adult women (at least, those with a grip on reality . . .).
I don’t hate Stephenie Meyer.
Not by a long shot. Actually, I’m in awe of what she’s accomplished. She hit a literary and cultural nerve, and holy cow, the results are astonishing. That’s totally awesome for her. (I think we were going through our English degrees at BYU at the same time—I’m betting we had a class or two together. Wild thought. Too bad we didn't become BFFs or something.)
For her sake, I wish she’d had a little rejection before her astounding success, like Rowling did. I think she’d enjoy and appreciate what she’s got if she’d ached and worked for publication before she got it. Just a guess.
I don’t think she had any intention of sending messages about dating and relationships to young girls. I think she set out to just tell a fun yarn—and in that regard, she did exactly what she set out to do.
I don’t think she’s a terrible writer.
But then, I also don’t think she’s the cat’s meow, either. She’s good, but she’s not amazing. Her style appeals to millions, though, so my opinion here obviously means little.
I feel like she could have used a better editor and could have rewritten a lot of sections to tighten them up so it’s not just lots and lots of talking with nothing happening for dozens of pages. I also think some of her books have major structural/plot problems. I won’t go into that here, because the discussion could be several posts on its own and this post is already too long.
But my critique group has heard me rant about the plotting problems. (“Such a cheap shot! You don’t DO that!”) They just smile and humor me.
Then there’s Breaking Dawn, which a lot of readers and die-hard fans were angry about, because the tone and direction of that book were so different from the first three. In my never-quiet opinion, Meyer shouldn’t have been surprised at the backlash. That’s what happens when you deliver one thing to your fans for three books and then give them something else in the final installment. It’s called bait-and-switch. If there hadn’t been the first three books, and BD was the first one, readers wouldn’t have reacted like that, because there was no previous series to compare it to.
On the other hand, I enjoyed The Host (and even got a bit teary toward the end). It, too, could have been tightened a bit—there were parts where sitting around thinking got a little redundant—but the heroine is proactive, intelligent, mature, and smart (the complete opposite of Bella), and the story is quite fascinating. Because of that book, I’m quite sure I’ll read whatever Meyer puts out next.
My real issue with the series is some readers’ unhealthy fanaticism.
I have a neighbor who admitted that when she’s angry at her husband, she rereads Twilight and imagines that she’s married to Edward.
I’ve read blog comments where women admit that the series is ruining their marriage because they expect their husband to be like Edward.
Sick and wrong, people. Sick and wrong.
I totally get that Meyer isn’t responsible for any of that. The women who get carried away with these fictional characters are. But the frenzy surrounding the books is just . . . creepy.
We think it’s cute when a three-year-old plays make believe, thinking she could grow-up to be Cinderella. That kind of fantasy life is not so cute in a grown woman. Let’s separate fantasy from reality, people.
The only other similar frenzy I’ve ever seen about a series surrounded Potterworld. But it had a big difference: that frenzy was family-friendly. Everyone from the fourth grader on up to Grandma and Grandma could read and enjoy the books, get excited about the cool world Rowling created, guess what was coming next, and discuss it as a family.
I didn’t see people losing themselves in that world to the detriment of their real relationships. Instead, the books enhanced relationships as parents and children shared the books together and talked about them.
And I don’t recall anyone foaming at the mouth over Harry or Ron.
My other issue is the sheer scope of the marketing machine.
This has nothing to do with Meyer or her books, per se. But trying to avoid seeing or reading something about Twilight is like trying to find a pair of shoes for my kindergartner without some Nick Jr. or Disney character on them: virtually impossible.
Frankly, I’m just tired of seeing it freaking everywhere. Sue at Navel Gazing said it best here.
As I mentioned awhile go, it was unnerving to see the books translated into Finnish on the other side of the planet. The power these marketing machines have is mind-boggling.
(For the record, it was equally unnerving to see a banner for High School Musical on a bus driving through Helsinki. I’m equal-opportunity when it comes to getting annoyed by U.S. marketing efforts. I got irritated with the Potter marketing as well, and I love those books.)
If you adore Twilight, fine. If you hate it, fine. I hope this makes some semblance of sense as to my position on it. I’m somewhere between those two extremes.
In summary:
- No, I don’t hate the books, but I don’t love them either.
- No, I don’t hate Stephanie Meyer; I actually respect her quite a bit.
- Yes, I think she’s a good writer, but I think she could use a good editor and some serious rewriting.
- Yes, I think what she’s done is amazing and laudable.
- And no, I just don’t get the attraction to Edward. I’ll take my flesh and blood husband any day.
I may turn comments off if I feel the need, because I'm an utter wimp.
27 comments:
I'm right there with you, Annette. Well said. It really is a frenzy and an addiction for some people who go into that fantasy and never want to come out. That is where I think it gets dangerous and down right scary. But, for those who can read it, appreciate it for what it is worth, and walk away, then go for it.
And, on a side note, Edward is not my kind of guy either. I had the same reaction you did. Creepy . . . stay away . . . and it wasn't the vampire thing that made me think that.
Holy cow. I could have written this, almost down to the word (except for the part about going through BYU at the same time as SM--ya little young'uns).
I love you.
For me, part of the fun with Twilight is that it's a "girlfriend" thing (does that make sense?). I was practically in mourning today that I couldn't go see the movie with my BFF because she moved last spring. We've counted down the release of each book together, read them together, loved them together, even hated parts of them together (cuughBDcough). And actually, I have several girlfriends around the globe who I touch base with about a week or so after each book has been released. We have our own mini book club discussion, I suppose.
It's definitely an interesting phenomenon, this Twilight thing. Your points are valid and well taken. I don't understand those obsessed--I'll never reread the books, and I definitely prefer my guy to Edward (for Pete's sake--he's 17!!!). But it's been fun for me to enjoy the "craze" from my little universe of girlfriends.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I completely agree with everything you said.
My main issue with the whole thing is the extreme fanaticism about this series. It's not very good, and I just don't get it. I've never been obssessed about anything like this though, so I will never get it.
I call it Star Wars for women.
I will just say a big giant DITTO. I thought the books were a fun read, but nothing to get all worked up about. My twilight obsessed sister-in-law said it's because I'm in a good marriage and I don't need to fantasize about Edward, LOL. Okaaaaay. But I agree with what you say here...the fandom and sheer obsession is what I absolutely don't get. The books are fine. Romance isn't my favorite genre, so it's unlikely I would have liked them even if they were a bit better written.
And like you said, I really enjoyed the Host. Yes, there were some issues with it, but for the most part it was a story that moved me. I find it interesting that many of the Twilight obsessed hated the Host. So, just goes to show that it really isn't SM...it's totally Edward. :)
I loved the story, even though I didn't love the characters. I thought the writing was good, but could have been better. I admire Steph M. for all she's done and think that people looked waaaaay too much into the details of the story and judged her harshly because she's mormon and I don't think that's fair. So, yeah, I get what you're saying. Now, are you going to go to the movie?
I'm with you on the whole Edward thing. I absolutely love the series, I've read it like five times, but c'mon people, it's not real. There is a guy I work with who seriously flips out if anyone even says the name Edward, because he hates how insanely in love girls are with this fictitious character.
I so agree with every word but one--I DO think that, as writers, we are responsible for what we write and some of the reaction. There are things I won't write about because I don't want to have a negative influence (as if I have any influence at all whatsoever, but you know what I mean). I think we can write about people who do things we would never do--but I don't think we should make them our heroes, or, at least they should be better people by the end of the story. I doubt she had any idea things would turn out this way and hey, good for her, but I don't think this is what her talents were meant to be used for. I have nothing against the books as books--I just have a tiny something against she who wrote them. There would be no frickin' crazy incredibly ridiculous obsessive media frenzy if she never wrote these books. It's kind of like the reason I will never buy a lottery ticket--what if I win and the whole world knows what I did? She won the lottery and now she is famous for writing books about vampires who, like you said, are not in truth the best role models. Not a place I would want to be.
Great analysis, Annette. I really enjoyed Twilight, but found myself skimming. But I skim Dean Koontz too. (Let me clarify that I NEVER skim Harlan Coben--just in case he reads this.) So I definitely think the reader-obsession thing for Twilight/Edward is quite a unique phenomenon. I guess it's made all us authors out there realize that there are huge markets just waiting to be tapped--teenage girl markets, that is. lol. Wish I had it in me to write to that market, but I think I blocked out everything between the ages of 12 and 20.
I'm so with you on this, but I never thought about the Edward/red flag insight and that's certainly thought-provoking. It's a dangerous standard for girls who don't really know what love is yet. Scary.
I'm with you. I just heard about a woman who wants to move to S.M.'s ward, just to be there. Creepy weird!
I really enjoyed The Host, too. It was like she had learned how to write about people, finally!
Yay! I'm glad you finally put your thoughts into words; you know I've been trying to pull it out of you everywhere. :)
But honestly, I love your thoughts and analysis --I actually have to agree with you. I really loved the books and found myself immersed in them for weeks. But when I finally got out of the Twilight Fog, I took a step back and went "Whoah!" Since then, I've had time to see it objectively, and I find the popular obsession kind of weird. I also have a friend (well, it's my friend's sister) who is having marital problems because she's expecting her husband to be like Edward. Who wants their husband to be a controlling cold vampire? In a story, it's awesome! In real life? Yeah, that's the point: It's not real. :)
Great post, Annette!
See, that's why I like Jacob.
No, I'm totally with you. Read them, was strangely engrossed, stepped back a bit and went "ewww".
I had the exact same problem with Edward, initially. Why was she so attracted to him when she thought he was always angry? (And I never quite understood his attraction to her.) It wasn't until the 3rd book that I started to like him and think he was a noble character, after all. (The relationship with Jacob seemed a lot more real and healthy). That being said, I do still worry about girls misinterpreting bad boyfriends' behaviours. When we don't have all of the information about someone we like, we tend to fill in the blanks with what we want them to be. I did that when I was a teen, and there was no "Twilight" to fantasize about.
I did enjoy the series. The books are page-turners and hard to put down. I think the thing that Stephenie did really well is to create her vampire/werewolf world in a way that makes it seem plausible. She has really thought through the back stories, and each time I took issue with something that didn't seem consistent, it was eventually explained.
But I don't think I am an over-zealous fan. I think I had Breaking Dawn in my possession for two weeks before I could devote the time to reading it. (My friends were shocked!)
For the reasons you explained, I think I preferred "The Host," as well. It was a little slower moving, but had me contemplating lots of concepts.
Thanks for your thoughtful review? Will you see the movie?
Wow--I'm amazed how many people are middle-of-the-roaders on this.
Will I see the movie? Eventually, I'm sure. It's almost something I have to see for cultural literacy. But I'll probably wait for the dollar theater or the DVD.
Thank you for saying this so well. Ditto, ditto, ditto.
Espcially this: "And no, I just don’t get the attraction to Edward."
I think that's why I couldn't get into any of the books. I just didn't understand why anyone would be attracted to Edward OR Bella Maybe if I'd gotten that, I would've enjoyed Twilight more than I did.
I've never been remotely interested in the Twilight mania. I have not read the book, or plan to see the movie. Not complaining or bragging, it is just what it is. Maybe I'm just secretly snotty and I refuse to love the same book as a typical teenager. But maybe I need a therapist to figure that one out☺ I read your points, and they seem well-thought out and reasonable which makes me glad I'm not part of the Twilight mania.
I also just want to tell you I will be on blog-cation and will not be able to drop by and comment for awhile. I will miss your posts but I will be back. Have a great THANKSGIVING holiday!
So much to process here. Good take on the red flag business, very important point. I liked The Host way more, it was nice to have Bella out of the picture (although the movie Bella is way better than the book Bella, ya think?).
Personally? That first Twilight book made me so darn horny I couldn't believe it. After pondering this strange phenomenon, I think it's because NO ONE IN THE BOOK GETS ANY ACTION. Drove me crazy. Hey, someone had to do it...
ps - I like the movie better than the book.
I loved this post! I too was not the huge fan of Edward. He turned me off a little too. I always secrety hoped she'd end up with Jacob. I REALLY liked him.
Anyway, I liked the series but didn't die over it. I liked the story but did not get obsessed. I saw the movie because I was so curious and love romance.
Would I love a big hit, ya, I think I would but who knows. I don't have the same education and I'm starting from scratch. But can Stephanie spin a yard. She sure can and good for her.
I know how hard it is to write a great story. I also know you can go back and fix over and over this things you need to. It's overwhelming. I admire that she did it 5 times! I hope I can do that!
I'm a little amazed that everyone has so much to say about this book.
My reaction to #1 was that it was just like eating an eclair--take one bite you will eat the whole thing, but you will feel a little sick afterwards. I never even felt an urge to read past #1--there were too many other books that I wanted to read.
I read the books, rather quickly, but I am definitely not in love with the series. In fact, I don't even own them, nor do I desire to.
I will have to look into reading The Host. I have heard quite a few good things about it.
You expressed my sentiments perfectly. I feel exactly the same.
Thank you for putting into words what I was feeling.
Yep.
Amen to all of that, Annette. You couldn't have summed up my own thoughts about the series more perfectly.
You're so not a wimp though. I haven't had the guts to post about it, myself.
I've only read the first book so far and enjoyed it. I am planning on reading the rest but I don't quite get the fanatasm about it.
It would be interesting to see a post on what the warning signs Edward exhibits are.
The only ones that really bothered me was when he watched her sleep without her knowing and watching her all the time.
If it had been anyone else he would have been arrested.
Fantastic review and comments. I like the books more than you do, I think, but I still agree with most everything you said. Many parts could have been tightened editorially, for sure, and I'm not even an editor and I thought that. It's definitely a whirlwind, though, isn't it? That part is unbelievable.
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